I'm looking at pairings of observer saviors and demons and decider saviors and demons, when you swap out the masculine or feminine.
OBSERVERS
fNe
mNe
Masculine Ne: Looks for patterns and connection behind systems and things (Feminine Si: Loves to reminisce about good experiences, but not so much in the demon position) MASC SAVIOR Ne: Is insistent everyone should be gathering info about patterns and connections behind systems. Conspiracy theories. Why aren't you on board? Solid concepts "Masculine functions are used to make a point. So if I have Masculine intuition (feminine sensory), I'm going to make a point with a pattern or an abstract idea." FEM DEMON Si: Just can't get around to dealing with organization or systems. Keep meaning to but forget to. Other's giving you feedback that things are a mess. Movable facts "Feminine sensory instead moves around the sensory world. They can be quite agile and just moving their body like water, it's pretty impressive. They will mold their body to their surroundings. They also won't have the urge to break and smash things, they'd rather just put things down nicely, there's no need to break anything. " | ![]() |
fNi
Feminine Ni: Looks for potential in others, has pet patterns they've observed and help onto (Masculine Se: Usually wants to touch, test and try everything around it, push boundaries, not afraid of danger - but not so much in the demon position) FEM SAVIOR Ni: Doesn't everyone gather patterns and rule out / narrow down? It's easy and normal, almost a blind spot. It's also addictive to just go by subconscious impressions. MASC DEMON Se: Sensory stuff is just annoying, overhwelming, risky... I want to clean it up and care about it, but it's too hard, or I can't just indulge in a little junk food, etc. "Masculine sensory uses dates and events to figure out a memory. The main difference to look for is memory on a timeline. " "Masculine functions are used to make a point. Masculine sensory on the other hand is going to focus on details and sensory data. So. For example, something you read, or heard, or saw. If you make an argument with one of those, it's most likely Masculine sensory." "Masculine sensory will push and shove on the real world. They're the type to smash and break things when angry or just simply trying to force the sensory world. Think of a mechanic getting angry at a bolt that won't come lose so they'll break it off and throw it at the wall." |
mNi
Here's a masculine Ni dom (savior), with feminine demon Se. My husband Greg has this. I would have never guessed he was intuitive. Apparently, Ni is really good at poker and golf, as he is. Now I realize that either Oi narrows down. He won't read directions, btw. He will read recipes but cooks intuitively. He's a chef. He doesn't exactly disrespect sensory, but he can get overloaded by it and also overindulge.
Greg's type: FF-Ni/Fe-BS/C(P) (eytassessment.blogspot.com)
Masculine Ni: Looks for underlying principles behind systems and things (Feminine Se: Wants to engage with everyone around it, take social risks) MASC SAVIOR Ni: Doesn't everyone gather patterns and rule out / narrow down? It's easy and normal, almost a blind spot. It's also addictive to just go by subconscious impressions. Solid concepts FEM DEMON Se: Sensory stuff is just annoying, overhwelming, risky... I want to care about engaging socially, but it's too hard to get it together, or I can't just indulge in a little junk food, etc. I keep making plans to deal with this but forgetting to follow through. Movable facts "Feminine sensory is going to use the abstract. So, they'll fight with the possibility or pattern." "Feminine sensory instead moves around the sensory world. They can be quite agile and just moving their body like water, it's pretty impressive. They will mold their body to their surroundings. They also won't have the urge to break and smash things, they'd rather just put things down nicely, there's no need to break anything. " | ![]() |
Here is a study of lead or secondary masculine Ni:
the testers have feminine Se demon and their savior De feminine
the visuals have bothe their saviors double MM - wow
fSi
Next, here's a dominant (savior) feminine Si, which is more fluid, flexible, forgetful and conceptual (which I have), but the masculine demon Ne is going to be more obvious to them than if it was feminine. They are movable with facts but hold on to patterns, which means they will fit facts into the patterns. Maybe not as much as a masculine dominant (savior) Ne, but still. (I'm starting with me, so I know. I feel happy organizing patterns, but I also stop other people from coming to conclusions without recognizing how much more info is out there!).
Feminine Si: Loves to reminisce about good experiences - yes I do
(Masculine Ne: Looks for patterns and connection behind systems and things) yes
Feminine Si: Loves to reminisce about good experiences - yes I do (Masculine Ne: Looks for patterns and connection behind systems and things) FEM SAVIOR Si: It's easy to collect and organize memories and mementos, and family tree, etc! Movable facts "Feminine sensory instead moves around the sensory world. They can be quite agile and just moving their body like water, it's pretty impressive. They will mold their body to their surroundings. They also won't have the urge to break and smash things, they'd rather just put things down nicely, there's no need to break anything. " MASC DEMON Ne: Can get obsessed with watching out for patterns and connections. Intrusive thoughts and fantasies. Solid concepts "Masculine functions are used to make a point. So if I have Masculine intuition (feminine sensory), I'm going to make a point with a pattern or an abstract idea. Feminine sensory is going to use the abstract. So, they'll fight with the possibility or pattern." | ![]() |
Here's a study of feminine Si leads and secondaries
The testers will seem very soft but have a solid interior/identity.
they're responsible for blast saviors
Their demon MM NF or NT is where they may fight,
their fSi paired with mDi makes their sleep FM
The visuals will have that pushy De, but identify as soft inside
they're also responsible for blast saviors
Their double MM NF or NT includes a savior and is where they may fight,
their fSi paired with fDi makes their sleep FF
Here are the sleep jumpers with fSi:
mSiMasculine Si: Forms principles and systems that it lives by and enforces into others (Feminine Ne: Speculates on people's hidden motivations and thoughts) MASC SAVIOR Si: It's easy to create systems and order. I have to. Don't you? Solid facts "Masculine sensory uses dates and events to figure out a memory. The main difference to look for is memory on a timeline. " "Masculine sensory will push and shove on the real world. They're the type to smash and break things when angry or just simply trying to force the sensory world. Think of a mechanic getting angry at a bolt that won't come lose so they'll break it off and throw it at the wall. " FEM DEMON Ne: Speculates on people's hidden motivations and thoughts. Might have intrusive thoughts. Can become impulsive but dislike it. Movable concepts. | ![]() |
Here's a study of masculine Si leads and secondaries
The audios will seem very soft (two f extroverts functions) but have a solid observer,
The kinesthetics will have that pushy De and Oi, but identify as soft inside (Di)
Feminine Se: Wants to engage with everyone around it, take social risks (Masculine Ni: Looks for underlying principles behind systems and things) FEM SAVIOR Se: "Eh, everyone does this, don't they?" The truly blind function that you don't know you're doing, so you don't even recognize it as a thing at all. Feels casual and mostly non-threatening. A warm, fuzzy blanket when the thermostat is a little to far away. "Feminine sensory instead moves around the sensory world. They can be quite agile and just moving their body like water, it's pretty impressive. They will mold their body to their surroundings. They also won't have the urge to break and smash things, they'd rather just put things down nicely, there's no need to break anything. " MASC DEMON Ni: "Of course I'm watching out for this. Everyone should be watching out for this! It'll get us all!" Feels like the monster under the bed when you were a kid, which is why you either made a point to check under there before bedtime every night or you stuffed a bunch of things under there so nothing else could fit. I.E. you "handled" it in a Demon way. "Masculine functions are used to make a point. So if I have Masculine intuition (feminine sensory), I'm going to make a point with a pattern or an abstract idea. Feminine sensory is going to use the abstract. So, they'll fight with the possibility or pattern." |
These Se testers will seem soft but have a stubborn interior
And the Se visuals will be punch from their De but identify as soft
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mSe
Masculine Se: Wants to touch, test and try everything around it, push boundaries, not afraid of danger (Feminine Ni: Looks for potential in others) MASC SAVIOR Se: Just be in the moment and enjoy it. Being present is so easy. Go with the flow. Solid facts "Masculine sensory uses dates and events to figure out a memory. The main difference to look for is memory on a timeline. " FEM DEMON Ni: xxx Movable concepts. | ![]() |
These Se audio will have fDe that misleads you (stuborrn interioor)
DECIDERS
fTe
Feminine Te: Tries to find common logical principles we can all agree on so things run smoother (Masculine Fi: Decides for itself what it likes and dislikes then rebels and rejects anything or anyone that does not conform with it) FEM SAVIOR Te: "Eh, everyone does this, don't they?" The truly blind function that you don't know you're doing, so you don't even recognize it as a thing at all. Feels casual and mostly non-threatening. A warm, fuzzy blanket when the thermostat is a little to far away. "Feminine-De says A-value is "good, sure why not. No argument here. I'm cool." When the stakes raise though, don't expect them to fight for A-value, unless Masculine-Identity is on board." MASC DEMON Fi: "Of course I'm watching out for this. Everyone should be watching out for this! It'll get us all!" Feels like the monster under the bed when you were a kid, which is why you either made a point to check under there before bedtime every night or you stuffed a bunch of things under there so nothing else could fit. I.E. you "handled" it in a Demon way. "Feminine De on the other hand is going to walk around your identity as to not step on it. They're going to be very careful to not offend anyone. This can be either savior or demon, the modality itself is enough to change the tone of a person. " "Masculine Di is different. They're soft and friendly on the outside but they're a burning fire on the inside. They tend to be more stubborn and they're hard to convince when it comes to personal stuff. The Fi will do what they want and they don't need any logic or reason behind their actions, in fact they don't even have one. | ![]() |
Here are lead and secondary feminine Te
Boht testers and audios keep things running smoothly but might have a stubborn identity they neglect,
The testers have feminine Si savior or feminine Se demon,
The audios have masculine Si savior,
or Se demon who they ignore the physical world and sometimes punch it
mTe
Masculine Te: Enforces order and control on others for efficiency (Feminine Fi: Evaluates its own emotional state, prioritizes values and understand others' moral principles) MASC SAVIOR Te: "Of course I'm doing this. Everyone should be doing this!" Feels like the ultimate Swiss army knife to address all issues and it's odd that others aren't doing this same thing because it's so obvious. "Masculine-De is just plain pushy, disagreeable, naggy, but also consistently inquiring, determined to figure out what the Tribe values or thinks, or able to fight and stand up against threats that cross those values." FEM DEMON Fi: "I should be watching out for this? Why?" The true Invisible Man function. The thing that you keep tripping on over and over again, but when you look back to see what it was, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at you like, "Dude, how do you not see that loose floor board and when are you going to fix it?!" "Feminine Di is going to be easy on themselves and they can move their person a little bit easier. They will instead fight for the tribe, they will fight for fairness but they will flow when it comes to what they value or what their logic is." "Masculine De can be frequently pushy and doesn't hold back much. They don't really sugarcoat how they speak." | ![]() |
Here are lead and secondary masculine Te
Boht kinesthetic and visual Te types like order, efficiency and control,
but they all have inner softness with feminine Fi,
The testers have masculine Si savior or masculine Se demon,
The audios have feminine Si savior, or feminine Se demon.
fTi
Feminine Ti: Dissects people's behaviors and thought process FEM SAVIOR Ti: Isn't everyone dissecting people's behaviors and thought process? It's normal for me. It's so easy. "Feminine Di is going to be easy on themselves and they can move their person a little bit easier. They will instead fight for the tribe, they will fight for fairness but they will flow when it comes to what they value or what their logic is." They won't throw the first punch, but they will hit back. MASC DEMON Fe: I have to watch out for people. They're either for the good of the group or not. If they're not I freak out a bit or poke at people. "Masculine-Fe loses the visibly facial expressive feedback, and yet, still insistent about Tribe-values and standing by, and fighting for them. Masculine-Fe will still talk about values, but in a stoic kind of way." "Masculine-De is just plain pushy, disagreeable, naggy, but also consistently inquiring, determined to figure out what the Tribe values or thinks, or able to fight and stand up against threats that cross those values." "Masculine De can be frequently pushy and doesn't hold back much. They don't really sugarcoat how they speak. " | ![]() |
mTi
Masculine Ti: Dissects the inner workings of things and and systems Feminine Fe: Constantly looks out for group harmony, in tunes with others' feelings, sometimes at the expense of what it personally wants. MASC SAVIOR Ti: "Of course I'm doing this. Everyone should be doing this!" Feels like the ultimate Swiss army knife to address all issues and it's odd that others aren't doing this same thing because it's so obvious. "Masculine Di is different. They're soft and friendly on the outside but they're a burning fire on the inside. They tend to be more stubborn and they're hard to convince when it comes to personal stuff. Ti will usually do what makes sense to them, meaning that if they have some type of system that they built, they will use it." FEM DEMON Fe: "I should be watching out for this? Why?" The true Invisible Man function. The thing that you keep tripping on over and over again, but when you look back to see what it was, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at you like, "Dude, how do you not see that loose floor board and when are you going to fix it?!" "Feminine De on the other hand is going to walk around your identity as to not step on it. They're going to be very careful to not offend anyone. This can be either savior or demon, the modality itself is enough to change the tone of a person. " "Whereas Feminine-De says A-value is "good, sure why not. No argument here. I'm cool." When the stakes raise though, don't expect them to fight for A-value, unless Masculine-Identity is on board." | ![]() |
fFe
Here's a feminine Fe dom (savior), with masculine Ti demon. My husband is like this. He holds in a lot of negative rumination either about himself or others, or both. When he gets triggered by a small argument, he may erupt with backed up resentment.
Feminine Fe: Constantly looks out for group harmony, in tune with others' feelings, sometimes at the expense of what it personally wants. (Masculine Ti: Dissects the inner workings of things and systems) FEM SAVIOR Fe: "Eh, everyone does this, don't they?" The truly blind function that you don't know you're doing, so you don't even recognize it as a thing at all. Feels casual and mostly non-threatening. A warm, fuzzy blanket when the thermostat is a little to far away. "Feminine De on the other hand is going to walk around your identity as to not step on it. They're going to be very careful to not offend anyone. This can be either savior or demon, the modality itself is enough to change the tone of a person. "" "Whereas Feminine-De says A-value is "good, sure why not. No argument here. I'm cool." When the stakes raise though, don't expect them to fight for A-value, unless Masculine-Identity is on board. MASC DEMON Ti: "Of course I'm watching out for this. Everyone should be watching out for this! It'll get us all!" Feels like the monster under the bed when you were a kid, which is why you either made a point to check under there before bedtime every night or you stuffed a bunch of things under there so nothing else could fit. I.E. you "handled" it in a Demon way. "Masculine Di is different. They're soft and friendly on the outside but they're a burning fire on the inside. They tend to be more stubborn and they're hard to convince when it comes to personal stuff. Ti will usually do what makes sense to them, meaning that if they have some type of system that they built, they will use it." | ![]() |
mFe
The mascuilne Fe person guides the group perhaps and takes care of them but in a firm way. They won't have their own reasons that are very firm. Masculine Fe: Pushes for open, straight-forward communication and may enjoy provoking others to get a reaction out of them (Feminine Ti: Dissects people's behaviors and thought process) MASC SAVIOR Fe: "Of course I'm doing this. Everyone should be doing this!" Feels like the ultimate Swiss army knife to address all issues and it's odd that others aren't doing this same thing because it's so obvious. "Masculine-Fe loses the visibly facial expressive feedback, and yet, still insistent about Tribe-values and standing by, and fighting for them. Masculine-Fe will still talk about values, but in a stoic kind of way." "Masculine-De is just plain pushy, disagreeable, naggy, but also consistently inquiring, determined to figure out what the Tribe values or thinks, or able to fight and stand up against threats that cross those values." FEM DEMON Ti: "I should be watching out for this? Why?" The true Invisible Man function. The thing that you keep tripping on over and over again, but when you look back to see what it was, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at you like, "Dude, how do you not see that loose floor board and when are you going to fix it?!" "Feminine Di is going to be easy on themselves and they can move their person a little bit easier. They will instead fight for the tribe, they will fight for fairness but they will flow when it comes to what they value or what their logic is." "Masculine De can be frequently pushy and doesn't hold back much. They don't really sugarcoat how they speak." | ![]() |
fFi
Feminine Fi: Evaluates its own emotional state, prioritizes values and understand others' moral principles (Masculine Te: Enforces order and control on others for efficiency) FEM SAVIOR Fi: "Eh, everyone does this, don't they?" The truly blind function that you don't know you're doing, so you don't even recognize it as a thing at all. Feels casual and mostly non-threatening. A warm, fuzzy blanket when the thermostat is a little to far away. "Feminine Di is going to be easy on themselves and they can move their person a little bit easier. They will instead fight for the tribe, they will fight for fairness but they will flow when it comes to what they value or what their logic is." MASC DEMON Te: "Of course I'm watching out for this. Everyone should be watching out for this! It'll get us all!" Feels like the monster under the bed when you were a kid, which is why you either made a point to check under there before bedtime every night or you stuffed a bunch of things under there so nothing else could fit. I.E. you "handled" it in a Demon way. "Masculine De can be frequently pushy and doesn't hold back much. They don't really sugarcoat how they speak." "Masculine-De is just plain pushy, disagreeable, naggy, but also consistently inquiring, determined to figure out what the Tribe values or thinks, or able to fight and stand up against threats that cross those values." | ![]() |
mFi
Masculine Fi: Decides for itself what it likes and dislikes then rebels and rejects anything or anyone that does not conform with it (Feminine Te: Tries to find common logical principles we can all agree on so things run smoother) MASC SAVIOR Fi: "Of course I'm doing this. Everyone should be doing this!" Feels like the ultimate Swiss army knife to address all issues and it's odd that others aren't doing this same thing because it's so obvious. "Masculine Di is different. They're soft and friendly on the outside but they're a burning fire on the inside. They tend to be more stubborn and they're hard to convince when it comes to personal stuff. The Fi will do what they want and they don't need any logic or reason behind their actions, in fact they don't even have one." FEM DEMON Te: "I should be watching out for this? Why?" The true Invisible Man function. The thing that you keep tripping on over and over again, but when you look back to see what it was, there's nothing there. Meanwhile, everyone else is looking at you like, "Dude, how do you not see that loose floor board and when are you going to fix it?!" "Feminine De on the other hand is going to walk around your identity as to not step on it. They're going to be very careful to not offend anyone. This can be either savior or demon, the modality itself is enough to change the tone of a person. " "Whereas Feminine-De says A-value is "good, sure why not. No argument here. I'm cool." When the stakes raise though, don't expect them to fight for A-value, unless Masculine-Identity is on board." | ![]() |




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